##{"id":60147,"date":"2012-06-25T10:27:14","date_gmt":"2012-06-25T00:27:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fnarena.com\/index.php\/2012\/06\/25\/rudis-response-qantas-is-not-investment-grade\/"},"modified":"2012-06-25T10:27:14","modified_gmt":"2012-06-25T00:27:14","slug":"rudis-response-qantas-is-not-investment-grade","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/staging.fnarena.com\/index.php\/2012\/06\/25\/rudis-response-qantas-is-not-investment-grade\/","title":{"rendered":"Rudi&#8217;s Response: Qantas Is Not Investment Grade"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n\tBy Rudi <span>Filapek-Vandyck<\/span>, Editor <span>FNArena<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\n\tI received and responded to the question below and thought it apt to share this with other subscribers and readers at <span>FNArena<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<strong>Question from Philip P, Victoria:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\n\t&quot;Hi Rudi, I would like your opinion on the following stocks. Qantas and <span>Billabong<\/span> which i unfortunately own.&nbsp;Do they have a future or are they just speculative bets from this point? Some brokers seem to think Qantas has a lot of value there . It just seems too hard to me and <span>BBG<\/span> appears as if it may just crash and burn. Although they will have a much smaller debt load. It beggars belief that they got into so much debt in this environment.<\/p>\n<p>\n\t&quot;On a more optimistic note i listened to <span>BRR<\/span> yesterday and they spoke about 2 stocks that caught my attention -TTS and <span>NHF<\/span>. They appear to fit your &quot;all weather performer&quot; category [you have mentioned TTS before] and consistent dividend payers at a reasonable price. Your opinion please.<\/p>\n<p>\n\t&quot;In the last 2 years i have bought NAB, <span>ANZ<\/span>, WBC, WOW in which I timed reasonably well . I also recently bought some more <span>AGK<\/span> in their capital raising. I also have some <span>Senex<\/span> energy which have done very well and will take up my entitlement in the upcoming capital raising.<\/p>\n<p>\n\t&quot;Those Europeans are sure keeping us entertained as well as of course our prime minister in Mexico.<\/p>\n<p>\n\t&quot;I hope to attend one of your gatherings in Melbourne sometime. Regards. Philip&quot;<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<strong>RESPONSE:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\n\tHi Philip,<\/p>\n<p>\n\tTo understand the brokers&#039; views on individual stocks, one has to understand they do not care much about durability, sustainability or quality for the long run.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tTheir main focus is on &quot;cheap\/expensive&quot; over a potential 12 months horizon.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tIt really challenges my intellect to know there are actually funds managers in this country that hold very large equity stakes in a company such as Qantas ((QAN)) and have held such exposure for many years.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tOne can only hope they are the receiver of someone else&#039;s superannuation money.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tI am a firm believer that airlines are by definition not investment grade. You fly them, but never buy them is one of my favourite idioms about the industry.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tAnother one I like to use is: date them, but never get married. That&#039;s just another way of saying: trade them as much as you like, but never ever think of including them in your investment portfolio &#8211; no matter how low the entry price.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tThe same principle applies, in my view, to traditional media companies and bricks and mortar retailers. The risk-reward balance on a longer term horizon is so much skewed towards extreme levels of high risk that I wouldn&#039;t go near with a barge&nbsp;pole.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tTo put it very bluntly: yes, Billabong ((BBG)) shares can experience a short squeeze at any point in time but the company is highly unlikely to exist in its current form in five years&#039; time. In fact, its corporate existence may not make it that far at all (regardless of the balance sheet repairing that is going on).<\/p>\n<p>\n\tRegarding your questions about Tatt&#039;s ((TTS)) and NIB ((NHF)); they are both obvious dividend propositions. But whereas the second one (NIB) is likely to prove a reasonable performer in the years ahead, I&#039;d like you to research TTS in Stock Analysis.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tWhat do you see when you look two years ahead? Today&#039;s very attractive looking high dividend yield is expected to drop significantly in FY14. What makes you think this won&#039;t have an impact on the share price too?<\/p>\n<p>\n\tAgain, I know a lot of stockbrokers like to put their clients into gaming stocks for their supposed defensive characteristics and yield, but I don&#039;t like the industry dynamics plus most of these dividends are to fall significantly in years ahead.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tI hereby accuse many stockbrokers and advisors for having a too narrow and short-timed view when they promote these stocks. Note also these gaming stocks all have a very mixed legacy in terms of investment returns in the long run for loyal shareholders.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tI note that AGL Energy ((AGK)) is on many a strategist&#039;s list of favourites and as such I can only assume that owning these shares will bring you joy and benefits in the years ahead.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tI know many experts also like Senex. As long as you are comfortable with the higher risk profile that comes with a micro-energy play, I see no problem.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tIn general, I think you did reasonably well with that portfolio of yours. At least you&#039;re not down 30-40% or something along these lines. Do bear in mind that you are currently very much concentrated in the financial corner of the market and that is a risk in itself.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tI also think I still need to write more clarifications about what exactly defines an &quot;All-Weather Performer&quot; as only Woolworths ((WOW)) and AGL Energy ((AGK)) could possibly deserve that label.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tAll other stocks you mention are dividend plays. There&#039;s a difference between the two, even though I personally like to combine All-Weather Performers with solid dividends.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tI hope this helps.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tCheers<\/p>\n<p>\n\tRudi Filapek-Vandyck Your Editor<\/p>\n<p>\n\tP.S. Subscriber Philip clarified in response that the stocks mentioned do not represent his complete portfolio, but only part of it.<\/p>\n<p>\n\t<span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">Readers should note that my personal views are just that. None of the above is investment advice. 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